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Old Jun 23, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #41
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There's not much point in asking someone to ping their build if the person asking can't see past the wiki to tell whether it's an effective build or not.

What's fun is when the party leader asks for your build and when you ask for theirs, they either don't show it or kick you. I figure that I've got as much of a "right" to know how good his/her skill bar is as they have to mine. Besides, it's also quick and easy way to tell whether the party leader is a jerk or not.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58   #42
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What's fun is when the party leader asks for your build and when you ask for theirs, they either don't show it or kick you. I figure that I've got as much of a "right" to know how good his/her skill bar is as they have to mine. Besides, it's also quick and easy way to tell whether the party leader is a jerk or not.
Heh yea, that is so true. I've had that happen a lot in ab >> Usually the leader has some really horrible build and runs into mobs and...we'll save that for another rant <<;
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #43
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It's because HB is the strongest form of healing in the game. Infuse excluded. And it so happens that Ursans shouldn't need prots, aswell as consumables being present.
[Shield of Absorption] [Shielding hands] and [Guardian] are great in most areas with ursan groups.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #44
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For me they do :/ they allwyas want me to use echo mending with frenzy healsig
I suggest not using koss then =)
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13   #45
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i for one really dont care what the monk bring as long as he is efficient, hell he can bring WoH if he wants as long as he knows how to heal.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #46
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No, i just use my own build because i like to have a style of my own instead of being identical to every other monk in the game. That's what i like about the giant spellbook of GW after all.
yeah yeah u r great... every1 is great if they didnt use wiki build, they think...
sure sure... u r great... and who cares?! as long know what todo all fine, or at least tell the truth if its the 1st time or still need experience... but most ppl say him self pro after 1-2 times... lol...
if so then

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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #47
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So what i do is pinging the cookie cutter build to them and then quickly change it into the build i feel like using.
Do you guys do this as well?
No, never.

If you join a pug you either do as the party leader says, or leave the group to make your own 'superiour' one.

If the party leader is clearly a moron, try to convince him into using your 'better' build, if he stays ignorant, leave.

I'd put people like you on my 'not-to-play-with' list.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35   #48
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Of course. I always do that. My builds work always better, so they never notice.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #49
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Of course. I always do that. My builds work always better, so they never notice.
This is why I stopped pugging two years ago. Even if you're build happens to be better, switching to a build the party leader asks for, and then switching immediately back to your old build after you ping is the dumbest shit in the world. For all you know, the bar the leader wants you to run happens to have better synergy with the other members bars - and you switching to what you want kills that. If the party leader wants you to run an Echo-Mending Warrior then you either do it or leave the group (I suggest you leave that one).
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42   #50
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Right. Nevermind the mobs of 8 enemies you'll frequently see in PvE...

Channeling is great for any caster in PvE.
What are you doing as a caster with 8 enemies surrounding you? Unless you're solo farming you need to pay attention to the battlefield more. Whenever I'm using a caster I barely get hit. WHY? Because I PuG alot and most PuGs are just like you. They get surrounded by 8 foes and take all the beating for me. Try kiting or something more productive then standing around casting with Channeling on you just so you can manage your energy. =p
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #51
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So what i do is pinging the cookie cutter build to them and then quickly change it into the build i feel like using.
You will never party with me. If you pulled a stunt like that on me I'll catch it. I will not tolerate a person who LIES to me. This goes to anyone else who thinks lying to their party leader just to fit in is acceptable. Epic.....
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #52
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No, you won't. You will be too busy spamming your ursan skills. The thing is, you won't notice because the game will still go smooth as butter.

Bottom line: Cookie cutter builds drastically reduce the lifespan of the fun in GW. It get's stale after using them six times in a row. Too bad most people don't like to play the game, they just want the rewards.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22   #53
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No, you won't. You will be too busy spamming your ursan skills. The thing is, you won't notice because the game will still go smooth as butter.

Bottom line: Cookie cutter builds drastically reduce the lifespan of the fun in GW. It get's stale after using them six times in a row. Too bad most people don't like to play the game, they just want the rewards.
Sorry but the next time I have some scrub in my group trying to run their shit Monk/Ranger pet build because Mr. Fuzzies is "Oh so cute" and trying to argue with me because their pet does lots of damage - I'll think of you; and probably die a little on the inside.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #54
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Have you even been paying attention? I was still using a HB build, just not the exact same copied from Wiki. No petsmiting at all.

Always exaggerating stuff...

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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43   #55
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No, you won't. You will be too busy spamming your ursan skills. The thing is, you won't notice because the game will still go smooth as butter.

Bottom line: Cookie cutter builds drastically reduce the lifespan of the fun in GW. It get's stale after using them six times in a row. Too bad most people don't like to play the game, they just want the rewards.
I never said I'd be running Ursan and I definately never said anything about cookie cutter builds. Let me set this straight. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU ARE USING. BUT!!!!!!! If you join my group and YOU SAY you are gonna run a specific build then run that build. Don't change it without at least letting your team leader know beforehand.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #56
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That's only worth complaining about if the mission fails. And it never does.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #57
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And it never does.
I have concluded beyond a reasonable doubt that arguing with you is futile. It's like the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #58
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This thread is an epic failure.

Anyone that has played PvE in the last few months should already know the following facts.

1) More Ursans = more winning
2) If you dont have at least R9 Ursan you are clearly a n00b and should quit GW.
3) There is only 1 type of monk(HB). The GW client should prevent monks loading any other bar when in PvE areas.
4) The only other remotely useful class is Necro.
5) Preferably Necro's should run Ursan......
6) The iQ of each Ursan falls by 0.1% every time they activate Ursan
7) The iQ of every party member falls by 0.1% every time they are under the effects of a full consumable set.



8) If you want to play PvE using some imagination and skill whilst still interacting with other players find yourself a decent guild.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #59
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This thread is an epic failure.

Anyone that has played PvE in the last few months should already know the following facts.

1) More Ursans = more winning
2) If you dont have at least R9 Ursan you are clearly a n00b and should quit GW.
3) There is only 1 type of monk(HB). The GW client should prevent monks loading any other bar when in PvE areas.
4) The only other remotely useful class is Necro.
5) Preferably Necro's should run Ursan......
6) The iQ of each Ursan falls by 0.1% every time they activate Ursan
7) The iQ of every party member falls by 0.1% every time they are under the effects of a full consumable set.



8) If you want to play PvE using some imagination and skill whilst still interacting with other players find yourself a decent guild.
I admire your sarcasm but I think you're not getting the point. The OP says he's gonna do 1 thing then turns around and does another just to fit in. He could easily start his own group but would rather be dishonest about it.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01   #60
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I admire your sarcasm but I think you're not getting the point. The OP says he's gonna do 1 thing then turns around and does another just to fit in. He could easily start his own group but would rather be dishonest about it.
The OP should memorise points 1-7 and start working on point 8.
Once he achieves point 8 the whole thing will become a non-issue
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